Karkee web Sam Browne - Trade Patterns, Subdued Web Equipment for Officers (Army) Web Equipment for Officers (R. It is maker marked "M. "What's New" Archives: December 2008 to June 2009 July 2009 to December 2009 January 2010 to June 2010 July 2010 to December 2010 Fitting Instructions - Army Orders 1908. The web tab with fastener crown, and the fastener spigot on the body, were replaced with a 1-inch web tab fitted with a brass tip, and a 1-inch web chape with tongueless Twigg buckle. Also note the bit of insulating tape on the Cup at right. ), Army Council Instructions (ACI) and other official documents located by Karkee Web that relate to Web Equipment, Pattern 1937. The example shown here is from the Karkee Web Collection. F. The photo at left shows Bottles with both the early (stainless steel) and late (plastic) Caps. 37 were introduced with Web Equipment, Pattern 1937, by List of Changes L. CN/AA 1515 Web Equipment, Patt. long. CN/AA 1018 Web Equipment, Patt. VI Water bottle. The pictures show a set of Patt. Karkee Web: British & Empire Accoutrements and Personal Equipment of the Twentieth Century Since we first began in December, 2008, Karkee Web has far exceeded the aims we had for it. Please go HERE for that Site. The late 1st War Mk. Bandolier Equipment, Pattern 1903: Introduction L. At far left is the first issue Case without side buckles and chapes. To read more about this fascinating pattern, please visit the following link (I am merely a member of the Karkee Web Research Team, not the creator of this incredible resource!)… Pattern 1919 Naval Web Equipment A view of the set along with a Mark VA Respirator Haversack. W. Karkee Web: British & Empire Accoutrements and Personal Equipment of the Twentieth Century Contributors' Collections: James Harriss. Dec 20, 2019 · Learn about the history, features and nomenclature of the British Army's 1944 pattern webbing equipment, used in the Korean War and Malayan Emergency. The weight of the Pack, attached to this strap, is transferred as a downward force – but to the front of the Brace. In all too many cases, we don't have good, original photos of the items we're trying to describe. ’37 web equipment…” – note the lack of capitals! As such, they were not given any Pattern Year Proceedings moved forward towards getting the Mills-Burrowes Web Infantry Equipment adopted as the new standard for the British and Imperial Forces. These were introduced by List of Changes No. Infantry Equipment, Australian Pattern (Leather): Introduction L. " and dated 1966. Interestingly, it has hooks made of thin copper sheet, rather than wire as stated in A 3067. ’44 , whose pouches were of a larger cross-section, were deeper and closed off by a deeper, more weatherproof, box-lid, secured by a QR fastener. Karkee Web: British & Empire Accoutrements and Personal Equipment of the Twentieth Century Contributors' Collections: Chris Pollendine. L. ’37 Basic pouches were addressed in Patt. Sampson (Oldham) Ltd. Haversacks, web, 2nd issue. Pattern 1937 Home. The War Office then deferred putting it into service, pending the “… forthcoming introduction of automatic firing rifles …”, according to Lethern. §B1623, approved 8th June, 1938. He has been a regular contributor to Karkee Web since its inception, and is a member of the Karkee Web Research Team. We want and need your input. Wearing the Pistol Order The photo at left, taken from the manual of Elementary Drill (All Arms) , 1935, shows the approved method of wearing the Patt. In those cases, we've substituted the best pictures we could find, and in a few cases none at all. Equipment Carriers. ) Karkee Web: British & Empire Accoutrements and Personal Equipment of the Twentieth Century Contributors' Collections: Karkee Web's readers and contributors include, quite simply, the most knowledgeable and advanced collectors and students of British and Empire equipment and accoutrements in the world. W. In consequence of the 1923 decision, the new Pattern 1937 Web Equipment had made no provision for an intrenching tool. Karkee Web is a website dedicated to the history and study of the British Army's web equipment, pattern 1908. 5-inches wide. ’37 W. Listed below are List of Changes (L. Co. ’37, Haversack, all ranks The Haversack, W. I. ) 719/1939. Stores Ref. Unter" and dated May 1918. Over time, it is slowly being revised, Non-Patterned Equipment being a new section, which will better address the themed coverage we now wish to present. Karkee Web contributor Paul Laidlaw has now confirmed that the No. The second issue Haversack, like the second issue Pack, has grommeted web 2-inch tabs on the rear, the other fittings being leather. This pair is maker marked "M. E . An initial structure was set-out and served us for a year. CN 8465-99-120-7156 CARRIER, CAPE, Modified [Issue 2] Stores Ref. '08 Infantry Equipment in Marching Order, circa 1915. Being contemporaneous with the No. Web Infantry Equipment, Pattern 1937. Infantry Equipment, Pattern 1914: Introduction Official Documentation Dec 20, 2019 · The example shown here is from the Karkee Web Collection. However, the word "pattern" has a very specific meaning in British and Empire military nomenclature, and at Karkee we try very hard to use the correct official terminology wherever possible. Introduction Non-Patterned Equipment Introduction Quick Reference to Identification Web Infantry Equipment, Pattern 1937 What was and what was not Patt. The photo at left shows a very early Sling, rifle, web, G. II example shown left is maker marked "D. For listings of changes we made before that date, see the archived pages linked below. '37 Equipment Carriers: Conducted under the aegis of the Braithwaite Committee, the web equipment trials of 1932-34 resulted in the selection of the Number 3 Pattern (shown right). From the Karkee Web Collection. Brace attachments were used to attach the front of the Braces to the Waist belt without either Basic pouches or Cartridge carriers. Aluminium and the British Army The British Army had had brief forays into aluminium utensils, but always seemed half-hearted when compared to European armies of both the 19th and 20th Centuries. In Karkee Web Home. Karkee Web Home Page. Karkee Web is a collaborative effort that depends heavily on the comments and contributions of our readers. A. of C. . The museum concerned has promised Karkee Web photographs of the dressed and accoutred mannequin, which will form the basis of a Set Display for the proposed KW upload. Web Equipment, Pattern 1944 Stores Ref. & S. The Bergen’s shoulder straps were fitted with short tab straps, 1. Karkee Web are indebted to Simon Braillon for the photo of the 43e Regiment (left). With the Australian War Memorial supporting the use of "Pattern 1915", it would not be too unreasonable for Karkee Web to continue with it as well. " and dated 1945. ‘37 Frog in 1941, substituting an upper loop only 1/2-inch wide, set flush with the lower loop. Karkee Web: British & Empire Accoutrements and Personal Equipment of the Twentieth Century Links: I've divided these links into five categories: 1st World War Related Topical Sites , 1st World War & Related Forums , the unique Mills Web Equipment Forum , Militaria Dealers, General and 1st World War, and 2nd World War Resources . Example A is made of cotton duck / canvas, rather than web. Web Equipment, Pattern 1958: Introduction Official photographs of the prototype Bottle and Cup provided to Karkee Web by Clive Law. '08 - Early War Marching Order. " and dated 1911. Centre and near left, the Pouch shown above, compared with a first issue Pouch from the Karkee Web Collection, which is maker marked "M. 2 Case, for the present, it is assumed that the No. Entries & Other Official Documentation Still, Karkee Web has provided a faithful reproduction of the document "as issued". It covers the design, development, production, issue and variants of the web equipment, as well as related equipment and accessories. The Case at center left has 1-inch buckles and chapes riveted to the case body as specified in A. Karkee Web: British & Empire Accoutrements and Personal Equipment of the Twentieth Century Bibliography and References: In this section we've listed the main printed reference material we've used in researching and creating this site. B. The V. CN/AA 2011 Web Equipment Patt. ’44, Pouch, basic, left The complaints about Patt. Web Equipment for the Age of Brushfire Wars This Pattern had its origins in two requirements for lighter patterns of web equipment, one for temperate zones, the other tropical. Accoutrements, Naval, Pattern 1901:. See photos and specifications of the belt, haversack, pouches and other items from the Karkee Web Collection. Up to a point, this has worked, because it gives the reader a good chance to locate an item in or near the pattern section where he or she expects to find it. Martins of Birmingham were well known makers of leather accoutrements, but this is the only example Karkee Web has seen of their webbing production. At the end, we've included the one-page "Amendment No. La Courtine is a small village in There are other web sites that address this subject to some extent, but our intention is that Karkee Web, by focusing specifically on accoutrements and personal equipment, will provide a depth of detail that is unlike any other resource currently available. The rear view of the same pair of Carriers. Implement, Intrenching, pattern 1908 - Head (Australian version) During the Great War, a version of the Patt. Note the diagonal strap, which was the key feature of Burrowes’ alleged design. C. For each Equipment Pattern, the Karkee Web Team have tried to present historical information, period photos, and modern photos of original items. '08 Pistol Order . 69 Grenade is too tall and won't fit in this Carrier. Chris lives in Suffolk. '08 Fitting Instructions, entitled The Pattern 1908 Web Infantry Equipment was published in May, 1908, by Harrison and Sons, Printers in Ordinary to His Majesty, in an edition of 10,000 copies. Web Infantry Equipment, Pattern 1944. items would have been very, very large indeed. When the need became apparent, it seems that the War Office selected an off-the-shelf design, which they termed the French Pattern, though it was actually a Linneman Tool variant. The result appears to have been a convergence of these designs. This was a common soldiers' mod - to keep from burning your lips with that hot cuppa! There were many others, and as previously mentioned Karkee Web will be very pleased to list any and all other examples that may be supplied by our readers. List of Changes entry L. '40 was put into service, but probably no later than 1941. The pattern for Carrier, intrenching tool, head, was altered by List of Changes entry §17808, dated 3rd July 1916. E. Haversack, Irish Pattern 1908 In the Mills Golden Jubilee booklet, The Development of the Mills Woven Cartridge Belt, 1877-1956 , Albert Lethern states that in 1922 the Irish Free State placed an order with the Mills Equipment Company for a "large" order of Web Equipment, Pattern 1908 . Until now, Karkee Web has handled the mass of non-patterned, "associate" webbing and equipment by adding "Associated Equipment" pages to the various pattern sections. '37. The photo at left below, from a postcard in the Karkee Web Collection, is of a private in the Middlesex Regiment, wearing I. Ltd. After their Pattern 1908 design, Mills’ rapidly moved to a “back-adjustment Pattern 1940 Cavalry Web Equipment - Belts, Braces and Straps The Web Equipment, Cavalry Patt. To better understand such transfers, a comparison to Karkee Web can be made. 4 Bayonet was an insecure and loose fit in existing Frogs. Attachments, brace, W. entry, the Haversack, officers’ and the Pistol Case R. -- John Thorne (Webmaster), 4th July 2009 From the Karkee Web Collection. Patt. I am not sure exactly when W. Web Equipment, Pattern 1958. 1203 (not dated but 1913). unknown Frog, web, bayonet, B. This has to be the shortest interval between actual items being seen in photographs and a contemporary photograph emerging, thoughtfully captioned by the unit involved, the 43e Régiment d'Infanterie, on the 8th November 1914. Mills therefore re-designed the Patt. From the Karkee Web From the Karkee Web Collection. There was no adjustment to this shoulder sling, which was 34 1/2-in. Three different versions of the Case, binocular, W. This example is dated 1904 and maker marked "MARTINS / BIRMINGHAM". (Mark I), second issue. Web Equipment, Pattern 1937 From the Karkee Web Collection. " and dated 1940. Accoutrements, Naval, Pattern 1901 . The first British War Office set of W. If reliance was placed on dealers’ listings and, sadly, those of collectors, the range of Pattern 1937 W. The War Office was satisfied with the new equipment and in late 1906 placed an order for 1,300 sets to be used in extended Troop Trials. 17219, 31 December 1914 / 30 March 1915, does not specifically mention Haversacks, but refers only to Packs. In addition to the pictures shown here, you'll find items from his Carrier, intrenching tool, head, Second issue. (O) Ltd. '14 in Marching Order. §B1623, dated 8th June 1938. '08. 580/1941. 1 was made originally of web, this canvas version being a wartime expedient, from a company who made furniture in peacetime, Waring and Gillow, dated 1941. It has become the best resource on the web for 20th Century British accoutrements. The Canadian Web Equipment, Pattern 1913, was introduced with Canadian List of Changes entry No. '40 was entered into the List of Changes by List of Changes entry LoC B9033, dated 16th February 1944. '08 Entrenching tool head was produced in Australia that was not a single casting, but was instead made of pieces of shaped steel riveted together. The two webbing manufacturers could not possibly have caught up sufficiently for re-equipment of the New Army Battalions by the time the first went overseas in 1915. Feb 10, 2010 · What's New on Karkee Web: This page lists all changes, updates, additions, and deletions to Karkee Web from January 2014 to present. Roll on August 2014! In the absence of an “official” nomenclature, this has been ascribed as Jones Pattern Equipment , following the example of other Volunteer unit designs. CN 8465-99-120-7156 CARRIER, CAPE [Issue 2] The crimped tip on the semi-pocket closure strap was changed to an eyeletted form and a third pair of staples was added, to allow for greater variation in containing whatever was placed in the Carrier. 37, Pouch, utility, front, with waist strap. To fit the second issue Water bottle carrier to the second issue Haversack , the lengthened strap is threaded through a loop sewn to the flap of the Haversack , passed back through the rear horizontal strap on the Carrier , then passed over the top of the Haversack and attached to the upright buckle in the center. 162 type (4th Issue) The tubular scabbard of the new No. James Harriss is a British collector, and is a member of RMARG, the Ridgeway Military and Aviation Research Group. S. Far left, stamping detail from the Pouch shown above, inside the lid. We would be very pleased to receive any additions or corrections to this list. Belts. We have been up and running for over ten years now, and in that time we've grown far beyond what we had originally envisaged, thanks to input from collectors and scholars all over the world. Karkee Web is a collaborative effort that depends heavily on the comments and contributions of our readers. O. This is an original example of the Emergency ration. ", for Thos. The early version of the bucket type Water bottle carrier, made from short web stock. This web site is a trial site for Karkee Web. cavalry Patt. 1", issued 28th August, 1940, and reprinted in Canada in 1941. In addition to this 1918 dated example, the Karkee Web Collection also includes Mk. is no more than themed coverage of the Army Pack, Canadian Web Equipment, Pattern 1913. ’08 or the patt. §B1624, with the statement that they could be “…worn over either the patt. The pamphlet was now more complete than the L. The same Water bottle carrier, shown with a WWII era green enameled Mk. The instructional handbook, The Pattern 1937 Web Equipment, was announced over a year later, by Army Council Instruction (A. You are visitor number at this site. Entries & Other Official Documentation Much of this information is drawn directly from Karkee Web. It is an early variation of the Mills Back Adjustment Equipment, and as such is not really a close relative of W. It is a sealed tin which could be opened at each end. One end, labeled "COCOA", contained chocolate, while the other, labeled "DINNER", contained a Bovril type meat paste. having been added. This example is dated 1941 and maker marked "T. 37, was introduced with Web Equipment Pattern 1937 with List of Changes entry No. sgfum vpb lymb sbwjl rpama sma mmg edhx rhcxd klnk